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Old November 13th 07, 10:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Steven P. McNicoll
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Default When to descend II


"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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I think I have probably mis-remembered it.

Upon reflection, I believe I was most likely already on the localizer, not
SW of ROYCE.

However, my memory is clear about being given the visual with the crossing
restriction, then being immediately cleared to land.


The clearance issued doesn't make sense. If the controller really needs you
over ROYCE he shouldn't issue a visual approach clearance. On a visual
approach you must remain clear of clouds and maneuvering to avoid them could
take you away from ROYCE. A visual doesn't save time when it's issued to an
aircraft on the localizer and may take longer than the IAP if cloud
avoidance is needed. The altitude restriction doesn't make any sense at
all. Terrain/obstacle avoidance is the pilot's responsibility on a visual
so it can't be for that and there isn't enough room below at 2000 MSL for
any other traffic so it can't be for separation.