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Old November 15th 07, 10:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Ferry flight a commercial op?


"Neil Gould" wrote in message
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"Helen" wrote in message
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And additional...
http://www.aopa.org/members/ftmag/ar...m?article=1467


Thanks, Helen. A couple of thoughts:

"The FAA's position on sharing expenses is not supported by the
language of
61.118(b), but pilots need to be aware of the FAA's policy. Current
FAA enforcement policy is so strict that if a private pilot ferries
an airplane at no charge, with no passengers on board, the FAA
position is that the free flying time is compensation for the private
pilot, and therefore a violation of 61.118. "
So the CFI was correct.

Note that the relevant condition is that the flying time is free. If the
pilot picks up the expense (possibly only 50% of the expense), then
there is no issue with this policy.


That's what I'm wondering. Based only on the AOPA link, I didn't run down
the individual rulings noted:

The FAA has no policy or regulations on setting rental rates.

If I want to ferry someone's plane, they should rent it to him for a $1 an
hour.

And since I can rent a Skyhawk for $100 hour, I can charter the three empty
seats for $75 and hour.

And I can advertise either service.

Really not trying to be a smart ass, or insult anyone. It just seems there
is still a hole here you could drive a truck through, or you better have a
rental agreement on you, and well breifed passengers if you ever get ramped
checked. Because if you are a private pilot, you may have to prove you are
always paying for everything.