"Matt W. Barrow" wrote in
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I am sick to death of everyone placing the blame for everything on
"government schools." It is very possible to get a good education
at government schools, if you want to learn.

If you want to learn what?

The blame for most of the
problems with government schools is the lack of motivation of the
students,
and is a failure of the parents of kids who are not motivated to
learn.

Even where such motivation exists, the methods ot modern "teaching" is
an utter failure. Recall, too, that the schools have been telling
parents for decades to "Shut up...we're the experts". Those
lacadasical parents are products of earlier generations of public
schools and their teaching of irresponsibility. IOW, the chickens have
come home to roost.


Hear, hear! Well put.

Not really. Just more typical excuse making that is become a cottage
industry in the US.


That said, there *is* a slant to the way things are taught in schools
that I find disturbing. To grossly over-simplify, this slant amounts
to an over-egalitarian "Everyone is equal, no one is better than
anyone else, everyone plays no matter how inept, business is evil but
the gummint will take care of you from cradle-to-grave" attitude that
sounds great on paper but produces kids without a work ethic or moral
compass.

Luckily, this can be easily "over-written" with proper parenting
skills. My kids are receiving an excellent public school education,
and are now at the age where they no longer need to be
"de-programmed" at the end of the school day. They can -- and often
do -- sniff out the slant on their own.

If they have to stift it out, they're not getting an excellent public
school education. The entire purpose of public schools is NOT
education, and hasn't been since the days of Thomas Mann in the
1840's.


I think Kontiki was referring to this slant more than anything
specific about the educational process. Too many parents aren't
aware of (or don't care about) this subtle undercurrent in the
schools that, over time, has produced a society of lazy, sue-happy
"it's not my fault!" people.

Look up the word "epistemology", then evaluate how the schools
practice it.

Then grab your butt.


h aren't we a little Zen and the art of obfuscation"?


Bertie