Shirl wrote:

Some of us knocked ourselves out every bit as much as you did, Jay, to
produce good, honest, decent, productive offspring -- kids with good
value systems and some awareness of how to set "priorities". There for
them as much as you have been, filling in all the holes that ANY
educational system has ... still to have kids with skewed attitudes. It
happens.


Well then there must have been other influences in their lives
that worked against all your hard efforts. It is certainly
worth considering that since government schools control a good
portion of their young lives that they might bear some blame.