Matt W. Barrow wrote:
"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 23:58:46 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:


And your point?


Bad parents have unteachable kids. The criminals I mentioned...


I know a kid whose dad spent years in the state pen and was later killed by
a SWAT team. He graduated third in his class of over 400.


Parents who care, and are involved, have successful kids. The
successful immigrants...

I'll bet the same thing would have happened to you that would have
happened to me if we brought home an "F". Today, it's not like that.


Many times an "F" is deserved. As many times the teacher would have also
gotten an "F". When they gave math teachers the same math tests, the average
grade was 60%, with 70% being a failing grade. It's nearly the rule, rather
than the exception.

Given the absolute irrationality and indoctrination coming from schools,
would more attentive parents make that much of a dent? Would it make the
psychosis coming from schools go away?

No matter how attentive parents are, "whole word reading", for example,
isn't going to make kids good readers. Would it make schools less likely to
spread Global Warming bull****?



Ah, you have reached the real issue. Fad teaching to meet demands of
"make these kids do xyz, better, faster, earlier, etc." Whole word
reading is valid, as is phonics, as is whole language. Of course the
problem is many people (parents, politicians, etc.) won't believe there
isn't a "good way" to teach reading. Not all kids can learn to read
using whole word, but some kids can only learn using whole word, same
with phonics, same with whole language. But, IMHO as long as they learn
to read well enough to pass the written for the private ticket, I don't
care how they did it.

Margy