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: tankfixer wrote:
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: :In article ,
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: : tankfixer wrote:
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: : :In article ,
: : says...
: : : tankfixer wrote:
: : :
: : : :In article ,
: : : says...
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: : : : You do realize that the Sea of Okhotsk is surrounded by RUSSIAN land,
: : : : right? No sane US admiral would take a force up there during active
: : : : hostilities.
: : : :
: : : :You don't have to enter it. just deny a couple of exit's and Vladivostok
: : : :is worthless.
: : : :
: : :
: : : And positioning to deny those exits leaves you in a fixed position and
: : : vulnerable to huge land-based air assets.
: : :
: : :Maybe in the old days it did, but now ?
: : :
: :
: : Making up more ignorance while you scurry about trying to move the
: : goalposts?
: :
: :
: :What huge fleet of aircraft do the Russians operate nowdays ?
: :
:
: There are (at least) 4 aviation regiments attached directly to the
: Russian Pacific Fleet.
:
: Or are you one of those silly people who think all the hardware just
: magically evaporated with the fall of the Soviet Union?
:
idn't evaporate, it just corroded away.
:
Not so much. You know airplanes are made out of aluminum, right?
One more time. There are (at least) 4 aviation regiments attached
directly to the Russian Pacific Fleet.
:
:
: :
: :
: : :
: : :And why would I be on the surface in the first place ?
: : :
: :
: : Who said you were? Why do you think that makes a difference? Do you
: : stupidly believe that submarines are invulnerable to aircraft?
: :
: : [Keep moving those goalposts.]
: :
: :
: :They have to find em first..
: :
:
: When you're sitting in one place to block a choke point that gets a
: lot easier to do. It pretty well limits the volume of ocean you can
: be sitting in, which makes finding you (or sanitizing that volume of
: ocean) much easier.
:
: :
: : : : : I'm not sure precisely what you have in mind, but the size of Russia's
: : : : : Navy has nothing to do with it. You're close enough inshore so that
: : : : : airplanes will blow your ass off if you try to sit in there.
: : : : :
: : : : :
: : : : :Yes, that is the problem the Russian face in trying to get out of
: : : : :Vladivostok....
: : : : :
: : : :
: : : : Except most of it is RUSSIAN land...
: : : :
: : : :That will be news to Japan and Korea(north and south)
: : : :
: : :
: : : Might I suggest you look up the meaning of 'most' and realize that it
: : : doesn't equate to 'all'?
: : :
: : :"most" of that land is just a hinderance to navigation.
: : :Even the Russian bits.
: : :
: : :The important parts are NOT Russian.
: : :
: :
: : The important parts to whom and for what?
: :
: :The parts the Russians would have to pass by
: :
:
: Check a map. Look north.
:
:Nice place for a some mines....
:
So we see it go from a surface force to subs to mines. Nothing like
shifting those claims, is there?
You think the Russians don't have minesweepers?
:
:
: :
: :
: : [Shift some more...]
: :
: : :
: : :
: : : No, it won't be news to either Japan or Korea. They can read maps,
: : : you see...
: : :
: : :
: : :I'm not the one who keeps discounting them..
: : :
: :
: : Gee, neither am I. You are, however, the one that is unable to read
: : either a Usenet article, a map, or anything written on naval tactics.
: :
: : And the change from shifting the goalposts to outright lying was a
: : nice change on your part.
: :
: :I guess since you can't win you resort to name calling. Oh well
: :
:
: If you don't like people pointing out you're shifting your claims all
: over the place and lying, stop shifting your claims all over the place
: and stop lying.
:
:I see you like to use old tactic of calling someone a liar when they
:refuse to accept your claims and the all mighty truth.
:
I'm not responsible for your myopia. I'm also not responsible for
your lack of veracity. I'm REALLY not responsible for your lack of
intellectual integrity.
I called you a liar because you lied.
Just what did I 'discount', you lying little sack of turds?
Keep shifting and lying. I'll keep calling you a shifty liar.
It only seems appropriate...
--
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
-- Mark Twain