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Old December 14th 07, 01:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Default FYI: Dec 12 MythBusters: Airplane Hour

RdKetchup wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Ross wrote in news:X5g8j.3$E14.1@dfw-
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Ross wrote in
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F. Baum wrote:

On Dec 13, 12:06 am, "Jim Macklin"
wrote:


What they showed with landing the NASA simulator is that any
person with some level experience with a cockpit display can
control an airliner. Most FAA controllers would not have the
experience to describe the cockpit and give useful instruction
in how to manually fly with the autopilot or where the switches
are located, or how to use the radio to even start the "rescue."

Maybe they should have an in-flight movie before each take-off
on

how
to fly the airplane, do you think TSA would allow that?

Jim, I caught just the parts of the show where J and A tried to
land the plane with some coaching from the sim instructor (Mainly
to see how the instructor would do this). These portions of the
show were amazingly brief (Possibly for security reasons ?) . The
stuff they did show was scary and I doubt they could have gotten
awhay with

some
of it in a real plane. I do watch the show for its "Infotaiment"
value but I remain unconvinced that someone could actually be
talked down in an airliner. I think it has been tried a time or
two in GA after the pilot became incapacitated.
FB
I had the opportunity to "fly" a American Airlines F-100 in their

full
motion simulator with an instructor. He was able to talk me
through a landing at O'Hare Airport without crashing the airplane.
However, without someone familiar with the aircraft the
intimidation of the lights, buttons, dials, radios, switches, etc
would overwhelm anyone.


And that's only a little fartbox of a jet!


Bertie

Yea, but it was fun for me since it was my first time!


Oh yeah. I didn't mean that. but here's an experienced pilot in a
relatively simple jet having a bit of a time doing it and yet anthony
thinks he can do it because he made his own sim out of cornflakes
boxes and a playstation..

Bertie


Reminds me of my first time in a full flight simulator, 12 years ago.

During the course of my pilot training, the school organized an visit
to a flight simulator manufacturer.

Each student got a chance to shoot an approach in a CRJ FFS. At that
point of our training, we all had over 100 hours, all had our private
pilot license and where on our way to our commercial.

The guy trying it out just before me was doing the bush-pilot
specialization, and had time in light singles, and in a Cessna 185, on
wheel and on float. He overcontroled the aircraft so much on short
final, he basically rolled it and crashed on the runway.

Me (with multi-engine experience), I managed to put the aircraft down
correctly, only to roll pass the end of the runway thanks to not
applying enough brake pressure and/or engaging the thrust reverser too
late.

Goes to show that it's not as easy as it might seem.


Yeah, you don't have to be superman, but Anthony's suggestions are just
ludicrous.

Bertie