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December 16th 07, 04:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Saw that episode too. It is a good show, I particularly like the
interviews.
Their CG is better than what is commonly shown and the aircraft types are
correct.
As for the ME109, I seem to remember that the Germans made some number of
modifications late in the war, with higher boost pressures.
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| A buddy of mine recorded some History Channel show and I watched it.
| The show was "Dogfight", and this episode was on P-51s fighting
| ME109s, FW190, ME262s, and some Japanese planes.
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| In one recreation, a P51 pilot has an unusual ME109 chasing him. The
| plane is actually out performing his P51 -- that wasn't usual with
| 109s. I don't remember exactly how long the ME109 was on him, but it
| was about to be able to lead him just enough to take him out
| (according to the P51 pilot, and, how he knew that I don't know). I
| liked that they actually interviewed the P51 pilots who described what
| was going on.
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| Anyway all of the sudden the P51 pilot tries a trick: he pulls the
| stick back hard against his gut, at the same time jams hard bottom
| rudder, the 51 spins out, sort of flat, and as it swings around the
| pilot hit the fire button and laid out a stream of .50 caliber through
| which the German flew and was knocked out.
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| I want to learn how to do that trick!
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| It's a pretty cool show, amazing CGI recreations. I slow motioned the
| maneuver -- all the control surfaces looked right at each stage.
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| Snap Roll. Isn't the best idea in the 51 but doable if you get the speed
| down below corner. Depending on the GW; down around 250 maximum. It will
| snap before it loads all the way up to max structural g which is
| mandatory unless you want to leave the wings and the fuselage as 3
| separate parts in the sky.
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| Bertie's right. The show models are good but not totally realistic. I've
| seen some slew moves on the program that you would really need vectored
| thrust to perform.
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| As to the 109 out performing the 51. The 109 in skilled hands was a
| deadly opponent at low to medium altitudes. It really boils down to what
| I like to call "The difference between the cockpits", or how good one
| pilot is vs how bad the other one might be.
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| Dudley Henriques
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