Bill Kambic wrote:
:On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 01:19:44 -0700, Fred J. McCall
wrote:
:
:snipped for brevity because I appreciate not having to read 1000
:lines of repeat to get one line of comment
:
:: Not so much. You know airplanes are made out of aluminum, right?
::
::Yes, which is why i used the word "corroded" instead of "rusted".
::
::They also contain significant amounts of magnisium, steel and even a
::good bit of copper.
::
:And you presumably think that Russians are too stupid to maintain
:their military assets or what?
:
:It's not a question of stupidity but money. For three lustrums former
:Soviet assets have been rotting away. Now they've got the money (and
:the will at the top) to start a "resurgence" of sorts. Time will tell
:how long the money and the will last.
:
:It's also worth noting that during the Soviet era readiness rates were
:not all that "red hot" even in some elite units. That's one reason
:why they always built fairly simply and in large quantities. I don't
:know if this will change or not.
:
And those 'large quantities just evaporated with the fall of the
Soviet Union...
:: One more time. There are (at least) 4 aviation regiments attached
:: directly to the Russian Pacific Fleet.
::
::With an assigned operational strength of what ?
::25 aircraft ?
::
:Pull some more numbers out of your ass. Perhaps you'll get closer to
:reality.
:
:Why don't you tell us about internal organization of those regiments?
:
Why don't you (or Tanky) tell us about just what forces you think
they'll oppose and eliminate all this 'changing the story'?
Your belief seems to be that the US can fight at 4,000 miles more
effectively than the Russians can at 40.
Sorry, but I just don't believe it.
:: You think the Russians don't have minesweepers?
::
::I'm sure they have some hull's with minesweeping gear.
::Can they leave port and actually sweep mines ?
::
:Better than the few we have probably can, even if you assume that we
:have the minelayers to try to close the place off and that they just
:let us.
:
:SSNs make great minelayers. So do some long range aircraft (but with
:some pretty obvious limitations).
:
And when the other guy notices you mining international waters?
::I can see why so many folks ignore you around here Fred.
::
:Only the idiots, Tanky. It's because they don't like having their
:lies, idiocy, and squirming pointed out.
:
:I always thought it was a sign of natural intelligence when people
:snipped the needless redundancies from their posts.
:
So you don't read any of Tankfixer's maunderings?
:
:Clearly the Russian Republic under Putin aspires to a greater world
:role, not unlike the Tsars of old. Can they do it? They've got the
:money and it looks like they've got the will. Putin is the Collosus

f Russian politics (at least for now) and system is clearly dancing
:to his tune. But politicians come and go (even dictators). Building
:a navy is very different from building an army or airforce. They
:certainly CAN do it; whether or not there is a national (as opposed to
:a person) long term agenda to do it is an open question.
:
Not the issue under discussion. Tanky thinks a navy is useless to
Russia because we can bottle it up. Geography seems to disagree, so
he keeps changing his story.
--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
soul with evil."
-- Socrates