Jay Honeck wrote in news:a2837a78-4c1a-495b-a218-
:

Guess our winter starts earlier than yours, the Met. Office here defines
winter as December 1st to the end of Feb. So winter's already been going
a while here. Still hasn't got below freezing yet, and is about 10
celcius today (upper 40s F, I guess)... and we're further north than the
entire continental US :-)

Yep, meteorological winter (really, the only one that counts) starts
on December 1st. But just TRY to get everyone to agree to change the
date on the calendar!

You just can't help yourself, can you?

Bertie