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Old January 2nd 08, 05:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_19_]
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Rich Ahrens wrote in
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Hilton wrote:
Dudley wrote:
No flap landings should be handled by instructors as simply another
procedure to be learned. There's nothing earth shattering about a no
flap landing, BUT and this is a BIG BUT HERE......there are aspects
of a no flap landing that are very different from a landing using
"flaps as required", so all CFI's should demonstrate no flap
landings and go over the aspects of no flap landings with every
student. I don't treat this situation as an emergency; simply
something the student must be completely familiar with before solo.


I was in the pattern at night with a student in a C172 at RHV and we
had a total electrical failure. No lights, no flaps, ... I had him
hold a flashlight at the ASI and call out airspeeds, I then did a
glassy water landing - worked perfectly!


I had a complete electrical failure in a C177RG at night on the way
from Duluth to Minneapolis back in 2003. Not wanting to fly into
either the Class B or the Mode C veil without radio contact, I elected
to put down at an uncontrolled field north of the Cities. A buddy was
flying a 182 on the same trip a mile or so ahead of me, so I got him
on my handheld and told him the plan. He went in ahead of me, assuring
the pilot-controlled runway lights got turned on and handling any
radio comms that might be needed if any other traffic showed up, while
I circled to make sure I got the gear down. Took a bit of pumping to
get it locked - it was reassuring that the tiny amount of remaining
power was enough to get a green light when it locked. So then it was
just a matter of landing NORDO, no lights, no flaps, in the dark. What
fun! I was sure glad I had practiced all of those, albeit not all at
once.

My buddy was waiting on the ramp and said the only thing he saw as I
came in was the runway edge lights blinking out as I rolled past them.


Mm, that's a good adventure. I don't remember readig about it before 1

Bertie