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Old January 4th 08, 05:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
karl mcgruber
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Default flaps again

The Cessna A185F POH has this in the LIMITATIONS section:

FLAP LIMITATIONS

Approved Takeoff Range: 0 deg to 20 deg.
Approved Landing Range: 0 deg to 40 deg

So at least in a Cessna 185, a zero flap landing is never an emergency. In
fact, it is SOP for some conditions.

CJ, I'm not disagreeing with anything you posted. Just posting this for
general information. The Cessna 185 has the exact same wing as a 182. In
fact, my wings have attach brackets for a flap motor, although the 185 has
manual flaps.

Karl
"Curator" N185KG

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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On 2008-01-01 18:26:04 -0800, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com said:

Barry wrote:
My examiner called the no flap landing an emergency procedure.

From the Pilot/Controller Glossary:

EMERGENCY- A distress or an urgency condition.

DISTRESS- A condition of being threatened by serious and/or imminent
danger
and of requiring immediate assistance.

URGENCY- A condition of being concerned about safety and of requiring
timely
but not immediate assistance; a potential distress condition.

So I would say that the inability to extend flaps would be considered an
emergency only if it puts you in serious or imminent danger, or causes
you to
be concerned about safety.



I would call it no more than an annoyance unless I have to stuff the
airplane
into a really short strip. Emergency? That examiner has to be kidding.


He calls it an emergency because that is where a flap failure is in the
PTS. It is in the "Emergency Procedures" section. I doubt very much that
the examiner thinks it is really an emergency.

OTOH, people do manage to turn non-emergencies into emergencies. Every now
and then you hear of someone who smashes up a perfectly flyable airplane
simply because they managed to spear a June bug with the pitot tube, or a
door popped open in flight, or something minor like that.
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