Alan Minyard schrieb:
Since when has Europe been worried about genocide?
Since we have learned from WW2. Since it is common ground to tread
genocide as an international crime ("...against humanity"). Do you
discern on this position?
You did not learn anything from WWII except to call for the US to
defend you.
How do you know what I have learned?
We (those you mentioned) try to face our history and approach pardon
and respect.. other nations still neglect their record. Nations who
are members of "the coalition".
That explains the discrimination against the Turks, etc. in Germany?
What does this have to do with neglecting genocides?
And:Which discrimination? Immigrants are granted double citizenship,
equal rights, equal education.
A problem is the integration, but thats based upon decisions made by
the affected - if you donīt want to integrate yourself (like learning
the language, as many turks of the first and second generation did).
You worried about Serbia only because it threatened
European interests.
In which aspect? The civil war blocked the land route to the EU member
Greece and the closed Danube, but what else besides threatened morale
and justice? Involving surrounding countries in the civil war?
The spread of a war is not uncommon in European history.
So, where are Europes interests affected=
That is exactly why we are careful about declaring and pushing towards
war. We see it everyday what war does to nations, people, cities and
even landscapes. We donīt want it.
Man, your spreading buzzwords, but you arenīt argueing.
I am not worried about Serbia, I am worried about the radical
nationalists of any given group in the Balkans, no matter if they rant
for "Great Serbia", "Great Albania" or whatever.. the UCK isnīt any
better then the bosnian serbs and the mercenaries who fought along
them.
You are not worried about anything, after all, the US will come and
clean up your mess, as usual.
Again, How do you know what I am worried about? You love to simplify.
The moment we pull out of Bosnia, Sarajevo will be back to the times
of sniper alley and bloodbaths on market places. Do you (demanding
"PULL OUT THE US FORCES!") really want that?
We no longer care. If the EU wants to be anti-US, then they can
take care of their own problems.
If the USA wants to be isolationist, it may do it, but it will harm
itself and others.
And again, it is immorale. You donīt care if people suffer?
Saddam killed more Muslims than Slobo did. Why wasn't that genocide?
Who says it wasnīt? If you consider the actions against Kurds, thats
genocide. And it is a shame that our society (you, us, everyone
dealing with that dicator in the 1980s) accepted it without taking
direct initiative.
And the Euroweinies did exactly what about it???
Nothing. Or as much as the USA.
Arafat is waging genocidal war against the Jews (picking up where
Europe left off). Why haven't you intervened in the Middle East
against him?
Why havenīt the USA?
You do not get out much, do you? The US has been the strongest
supporter of Israel for the last 50 years.
Wrong. The USA/Israeli cooperation lasts only about 35 years. Until
about Rabins time as ambassador in Washington and until the Nixon
administration gained power Israel cooperated with Europe in terms of
weapons development and cooperation.
What have the USA done to intervene against Arafat, his Fatah or
Hamas? Nothing. Or as much as Europe.
Any the despicable Europeans have done what? Oh, yes, that is
right, they have done *nothing*. (Except of course, the Brits and the
Poles).
And Spain, and Czech Republic, and Denmark, and Italy, and... well,
even Germany. AWACS and the Fuchs in Kuwait.
Al Minyard
The world isnīt black and white. Itīs shades of grey.
Gruss, Roman
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