On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 09:20:15 -0800, "BT" wrote:

Thanx for digging that out.

Quite welcome...I'm sure others would like to see it anyway.

Ahh... read the fine print in 7-9-3b... "if it becomes necessary" they can
vector the aircraft out of the ClassB, they just have to tell the pilot
being vectored that they will be exiting the "Class B protection zone", and
of course they don't have to tell the pilot not talking to them that is
already outside of and avoiding the "Class B exclusion zone".

Yes....and that's what I'm told they are trying to avoid. That's two
extra exchanges btwn pilot and controller they'd like to eliminate.

We negotiated a waiver to 91.215 for glider operations (climb windows)
within the 30nm ModeC Veil, outside Class B, but above the ceiling of
ClassB, to get above 10,000 MSL

This isnt a big 'climb' area here in the flatlands...
Also, many of the guys around here that are serious soarers have their
own glider with synthesized radio, and a few have xponders.

For now, I'm a 'fun flyer' til I get my ticket...and even then I
suspect I will be happy with 1 hour flights in the club gliders; at
least in this area...my butt is only rated for 60 minutes in a blanik
L13.

--Don
Don Byrer KJ5KB
Radar Tech & Smilin' Commercial Pilot Guy
Glider & CFI wannabe
kj5kb-at-hotmail.com

"I have slipped the surly bonds of earth; now if I can just land without bending the gear..."
"Watch out for those doves...smack-smack-smack-smack..."