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Old January 5th 08, 12:27 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Don Byrer
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Default Soaring under the Bravo?

On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 10:06:21 -0800 (PST), Herb
wrote:

Recreational and business pilots in the Chicago area were recently
informed that the current 20-25 NM radius B-airspace is proposed to be
increased all the way to the 30NM transponder veil. Comments can be
filed until January 12. The 3 area glider clubs will be impacted with
one club being located 28 NM from O'Hare. The floor of the B-airspace
will be at 4,000 MSL if this proposal should pass.


ouch...

Interestingly, the justifications heard for this change match exactly
the points stated here already. Pilot members of our clubs that are
flying into Chicago City airports regularly report that ATC is
specifically advising them when exiting and re-entering B airspace -
obviously establishing records for having to do so.


They REALLY want to decrease workload and frequency congestion...I do
understand and agree with that.

Question: Anyone knows how ATC reacts to requests to briefly
transition B-airspace on the outside border (transponder equipped
glider)? Many of our local gliders fly with transponders.


I would think it to be the same as transitioning it in any slow small
power plane. You have a radio and a transponder...if "UNABLE " they
will tell ya. Will also depend on where you are in relation to
traffic flow too. I can probably get cleared to buzz around all day
at 3K MSL NW of CLE, as the primary traffic flow is NE/SW...

Around here (CLE), in a C172, if you call up for flight following
they'll usually clear you into the Bravo, and vector you clear of
traffic.

--Don
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