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Old January 21st 08, 05:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Dizziness disorientation

On 21 Jan 2008 15:00:46 GMT, Judah wrote:

New Pilot wrote in
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Thanks for that, could well be just me being a passenger.
The nearest to the short approach sometimes is a base leg join where I
have to loose 800 feet in a short time and turning. but thats not
really agressive.

In response to another poster mentioning the UK weather and costs that
is absolutly right. weather here has been awful on the south coast and
the cost of flying
Hire for 1 hour of a PA28 wet is about $250 at loose approximation US
dollars
Landing fee at my local airport is now $35
Touch and go is $16 and they now charge $16 for a missed approach
-they waive that fee if ATC instruct a go around,


Holy cow! That's out of control - charging for a missed approach?!?! Is
this a Class B airport or something? What is their justification? How much
wear & tear does your Archer cause the runway when it never even touches
it! Are they concerned about the downdrafts from the ground effect?

I think you should consider moving to the US. Life will be better.
Especially in another two or three years...

I don't think I ever paid more than $15 for a landing fee in an Archer (or
even in a Bonanza, for that matter). And I've only ever heard of one
airport in the US where the owner was trying to charge people for touch &
goes. And I don't think he does it anymore. But even he wasn't charging for
a go-around or missed approach...


This is fairly normal for UK GA airfields. This one has full ATC
unlike a lot of smaller airfields though the largest plane usually
handled are 12 seat biz jets due to the main runway being just a
little over 1000 meters long. the ICAO code is EGKA. Touch and goes
are charged at some rate usually half or below half of the landing
fees. Seems to be factored into their running costs though I don't
know the ins and outs of how their financial model works - only that
it is very expensive for the humble pilot. The Fees above are based on
weight and are the above for anything up to 1.5 metric tonnes they
double for bigger aircraft.
The missed approach fees started a few months ago. I think because
aircraft from other local airfields were practicing approaches and
before the wheels touched the ground putting on power and going
around. This they would do a couple of times - usually flight training
outfits and then they would fly merrily of back to their own airfield
with a few low approaches and no touch and go fees. Aircraft from my
airfield are equally guilty of the same practice and unilaterally my
airfield has put this charge on theoretically to discourage the
practice. that is the official line. The downside is that resident
pilots may try to recover a landing to avoid the fee plus the extra 6
minutes going round the circuit instead of maybe doing the right thing
and declaring a missed approach.