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Old February 1st 08, 09:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
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I'll bet the Australians use something even better than
either of us :-))
Their conveyor belts go in the opposite direction.

-c
aiee, I need a vacation.


..and their airplanes fly upside down too :-))
They'd say you're entitled to your point of view....


It IS amazing when one stops to actually visualize it; the round
globe; the other side of it; and flying in the same sky upside
down relative to each other but right side up relative to the
individual localities. It's of course obvious to us in the macro
sense, but when you REALLY get down to the micro visualization
of it all................ :-))))


Bucky Fuller amy have said it best when he said that up and down
are completely innacurate. The correct terms for a pilot should
be in and out..

I think he was talking about flying, anyway..


Bertie
You run into this when you start explaining left and right vs
inside and top or outside rudder when dealing with slow rolls :-)

Yes, I've been doing that with one of my current students in
anticipation of the arrival of the airplane,
Or rather, he's been reading a lot and asking me questions about
how you know which way to twist the controls inverted. I just told
him it's easier to see when your head is upside down! For inverted
flight, you push the stick as normal for the direction of roll
without concerning yourself with L/R labels. and the rudder just
goes in the dirction you want the nose to go. Simple. For rolls,
it's the same with the addition of top/bottom rudder for the knife
edge transition.. Sound reasonable?

Bertie
Sounds good. Perspective in aerobatics inverted can be REAL
confusing to newbies. The one that I always found fascinating is the
different perspective in inverted spins as seen from the pilot's and
ground witness perspective. To the pilot the inverted spin will be
left, but when seen from the ground, the inverted spin appears to be
to the right
:-))
This drove the judges nuts on the international aerobatic
competition circuit until a pilot being judged for an inverted spin
one way realized he has spun the other way and corrected the judge
:-))



I haven't done an awful lot of those, but I always determined them to
be in the direction I'd depressed the pedal. Not that it mattered! It
was only a thrill ride for me anyway. I never used them in
competition as I only competed in sportsman.

Bertie


I've always considered Sportsman a difficult category. In many
instances the energy management problem is a handful for a newbie, and
pilots who do well in Sportsman have to fly extremely well and have a
real handle on the basics. A lot of times you can get away with a
minor fluff in an Extra and the excess power will cover your butt, but
it stands out like a sore thumb in a Citabria :-)

Actually, energy management was never a problem for me. I did most
competitions in a Decathlon or a Lakes. I ddn't do all that many,
anyway. Five, I think. Other things got in the way..

Bertie