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Old February 14th 08, 03:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Feb 14, 7:49 am, "Neil Gould" wrote:
Recently, posted:

Every flight in a light GA single should end in a full stall...right
as the wheels roll on to the runway...Unless folks know how to
handle the plane in a stall, they will not learn to land correctly
(I know this will start the flames!)-


That's a sweet ending, though -- flames or not -- especially when the
stall horn blows and the wheels just start turning.


Yeah baby!


Curious... in the Cessnas and Pipers that I fly the stall horn blows at
least 5 kts before the stall. So, when the stall horn is blowing and the
wheels touch down, the plane is still flying.

Neil


Too many people overlook that. Even the POH will tell
you that the horn blows at 5 to 10 kts before the stall.
It's difficult to get a "full stall" in the landing in most
lightplanes without banging the tail on the runway; the fuselage
geometry won't allow it. Airplanes like the Zenair 701/801 have been
designed to fix that. And with the nose high at touchdown, the AOA is
lower than with the nose at that attitude approaching a power-off
stall in the air, since the airplane is likely already sinking
somewhat at altitude, and its flightpath increases the AOA at that
deck angle.
I get the horn blaring at ten feet BEFORE touchdown. Now
we're at a reasonable speed. No float in this situation.

It appears that instructors are increasingly afraid of the
airplanes they teach in. Pretty soon they'll be afraid to teach 30°
banked turns at cruise speed. I think it's a result of the overall
dumbing-down of society, where we are told WHAT to think, not HOW to
think. The media tells us which political leaders to vote for. They
tell us what to think (and what to believe) about various hot-potato
issues. The problem with that, besides making us lazy thinkers, is
that they are trying to redesign society along their own agendas.
Everyone knows that the media is infiltrated by a wide assortment of
social engineers.
The flight instructors just parrot stuff from the books and
from their instructors, with some urban legends thrown in. They don't
KNOW from experience; they just REPEAT something they were told. So
they end up scared of stalls and spins and slow flight and little
puffy clouds and five-knot crosswinds.

Dan