On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:26:41 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Feb 20, 9:31*pm, Les Izmore wrote:

The other stuff you mentioned is of no interest.

To you maybe of no interest.... because I responded to you,
questioning some things you said?

Clearly what you said regarding pilots messing up approaches didn't
have anything to do with the original posted question.


It had everything to do with the original question.

Let me explain:

The original poster asked about starting to descend on a VOR approach
before receiving an on-course indication from his navigation
equipment. A responder or two either implied or said explicitly that
there was no problem in doing that.

I posted a contrary opinion, and said I thought it was not a good
practice.

To support that statement, I said that I had seen (and I have) many
approaches messed up once the pilot loses the approach course below
altitude and then tries to remedy the situation in undesirable ways.


Clearly the way you don't believe in what the book said had nothing to
do with the original posted question.


Clearly it does. I was stating that safety issues often override what
might be permitted by "the book", in this case, descending without
positve guidance.


Clearly pilots trying to reintercept the localizer had nothing to do
with the original question.


Au contraire, but it clearly did. It was a part of the scenario I was
using to describe an accident chain that could begin with the case in
point. (It was a VOR approach, incidentally, not a localizer)


So, who drifted of topic????

Like I said grasshopper, get to a reading course,

ALL I DID was respond to your very strange responsey. Don't believe
me? Reread your own post and my subsequent replies.


In the future, I might suggest that you think twice before responding
to what you describe as "strange response[s])". They may appear
strange to you because, as is obvious in this case, you simply do
not have a firm grasp of the issue under discussion.

I can't help you with that. However, if you wish to try to discuss
the safety issues involved in beginning a descent without course
guidance, I will be happy to oblige, in the interests of aviation
safety.



Like it or not grasshopper, my replies were relevant to your post
since I replied DIRECTLY to your post.

Allen