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Old February 22nd 08, 02:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default CFI Spin Requirements

I've seen a "pencil annuals".. what makes you think some CFI would not do
the same thing.

B

"Robert Moore" wrote in message
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And I stand by my assertion that there's a hole in the regulatory
language that you can drive a truck through -- there is no
*requirement* that the CFI candidate actually --Spin an airplane--
only that he/ she demonstrate "instructional proficiency."


I thought that there was a requirement for CFI candidates to be able
to (b) Be able to read, speak, write, and UNDERSTAND the English
language.

What is there not to understand about the following regulation?

(1) Receive a logbook endorsement from an authorized instructor
indicating that the APPLICANT IS COMPETENT "and" possesses instructional
proficiency IN stall awareness, SPIN ENTRY, SPINS, and SPIN RECOVERY
procedures after providing the applicant with FLIGHT TRAINING IN THOSE
TRAINING AREAS in an airplane or glider, as appropriate, that is
certificated for spins.

How can one be deemed to be competent in a procedure without having
demonstrated that procedure.

Note that in the regulation, there are two requirements, first to be
competent in the maneuvers and second, to possess instuctional
proficiency in the maneuvers. Your "only that he/ she demonstrate
"instructional proficiency." is not a true statement.

Now.... when I was training for my Flight Instructor Certificate back
in 1970 at a Part 141 Flight Training Center, I was flying for PanAm
and was fairly recently out of the Navy and about 35 years old. My
20 year old instructor was obviously uncomfortable at the thought of
doing spins with me in the school's C-150, so we worked up a deal, He
would stand on the ground and just observe me doing a couple of spins.
If I lived, I would get the endorsement. :-) True story.

Bob Moore
CFI ASEL/IA AGI/IGI
ATP ASMEL B-727 B-707 L-188
Naval Aviator S-2 P-2 P-3
PanAm (retired)