"Roger" wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:54:52 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

Fueling an aircraft in a hangar is irresponsible and dangerous.

Here even with our small airport it's not permitted.
Over at MBS they move planes outside to de fuel them. They did that
when I had the Deb weighed for a new W&B.

OTOH we can build plane in the hangars. If the hangar is properly
ventilated we can even paint in it...I only know of one so equipped
and it's prohibited in all others. More than likely due to the fact
you'd be painting planes three hangars either side of you. (they
aren't real tight)


Ya know, Kontiki, normally I agree with your posts -- but this is just
plain
crap.

Have you ever WORKED on a plane, in a shop? Have you ever had to de-fuel
a
plane to work on it? Where do you think this happens?

I'll tell you where it happens -- in the shop hangar. They unscrew the
quick drain, stick a plastic funnel into a 5-gallon plastic jug, and let
the
fuel drain. Then, when that jug is full, they quickly move another jug
under the funnel, dumping gas all over the hangar floor. This happens
until
the tank is empty.

It's done ,but in most places it's against the fire code.
The FBO changed a quick drain on one of the tanks on the Deb at
annual. He just unscrewed it and I stuck my finger in the dike until
he had the new one lined up and ready to go. He even remarked we
should be doing that outdoors, but he didn't want to move so many
planes to get it out and back in.


This goes on day after day, week after week, year after year, at hundreds
of
airports across America. WITH THE DOOR CLOSED. God almighty, if we were
to believe your nonsense, the newspapers would be full of 5-alarm fires at
airports.

Now, you're telling me that refueling an airplane from a
professionally-built fuel truck, properly grounded, with the big door
open,
is DANGEROUS? I find it hard that anyone so risk averse actually flies in
an airplane. Those things crash, you know.
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


In case you haven't noticed, the death of aviation has already occurred. It
happened with all the law suits, rising cost of gas prices and scab CFI's
that will fly for nothing. I've been in the industry for over 45 years.
They say there is a lot of money in aviation. I know that because I put a
lot of it in there! I am appalled that you can't make a decent living in
the industry. Oh yes, there are a few souls that have made it, but it's
like the lotto, not a planned definite process. I can't believe that I have
spent so much time and money in the industry and can't make it there. In
what other industry can you invest almost $100k in training and experience
achieve, what is called "the PhD of Aviation, the ATP", all the CFI's
offered by the FAA and still can't command more then minimum wags?? The
AOPA, FAA, NAFI and defunct organizations such as NPA, etc have all fallen
down on the job, BIG TIME. All useless to foster the community. I go into
a flight school and immediately get the feeling that "I don't want to be
here". You do not feel welcome! All these managers need serious marketing
and business education. And pilots need to start DEMANDING a living wage,
or just don't fly. Students need to expect to PAY for training, $100 per hr
for an instructor is not unreasonable. This about how much you would pay any
other professional. How much would you pay a plumber. Then think about how
much you pay a CFI and gripe about it! NUTS.

--
BobF.
Lincoln actually got it right but was way ahead of his time when he said,
"You can have some of you computer working all of the time and all of your
computer working some of the time but..." It was he that said that, wasn't
it?