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Old March 3rd 08, 12:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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We had a couple of very windy days over here in Europe.
Look at a crosswind landing of an A320 at HAM, a near crash:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ddb_1204404185

Nice pic:

http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.file?id=536882887

&filename=phpOltUWB
.jpg


Next time someone tries to tell you that airliners just "kick it
straight" when they land, like this guy did, show em this...



Bertie
I just sent this out this afternoon to our human factors people as
an example of how deeply a pilot has to fly into a problem before
realizing it isn't going to solve using existing control authority.
Absolutely amazing! This guy is on the way to a memo from the Chief
Pilot's office fairly soon I would imagine.
Glad they made it out of there.


Well, he doesn't appear to have made any effort towards putting the
wing down at all. Not his fault.He was obviously never taught how to
do a crosswind landing properly. You'd be amazed at how many airline
pilots beleive that this is the way to do it... Mostly, they get away
with it. The crosswind doesn't appear to be all that bad. From the
drift angle, I'd reckon the max compnenet to be under thirty knots
and steady. Well within the airplane's capability. He wasn't realy in
trouble until the flare.

Bertie

Bertie



I don't have the official wind figures, but I would make the wind
offset with gust factor well outside his capabilities.


Doesn't look like it to me. Most moderns are demonstrated at 40 knots.
Even the older ones can do 30 or 35 with no problem, and that;'s just
the demonstrated. The 757 is easy, and I mean really easy, in winds
approaching 40, although it's easy to get a PIO going with the ailerons
in turbulence in it. If the other poster's info is correct, it shouldn;t
have come to what it did. I dont see any effort on the pilot's part to
put the right wing down at all.
Having said that, it's a 'bus and it might not have allowd the pilot to
do what he wanted to.
In any case, crossposting his wasn't to make the crw look foolish. I
just thought the video neatly illustrated the dynamics of a crosswind
landing gone wrong very nicely, whatever caused it. A lot of people use
a similar technique and, close to the limit, it will end up looking
pretty much like this...




Bertie