William Hung wrote in
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On Mar 3, 6:32*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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On Mar 2, 7:57*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote
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On Mar 2, 5:25*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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We had a couple of very windy days over here in Europe.
Look at a crosswind landing of an A320 at HAM, a near crash:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ddb_1204404185
Nice pic:
http://www.airliners.net/uf/view.file?id=536882887
&filename=phpOltUWB
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Next time someone tries to tell you that airliners just "kick
it straight"
when they land, like this guy did, show em this...
Bertie
Remnds me of this video.
*http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9M3m1U-QYA
I can watch tis all day.
Yeah, they are kicking i straight, though they are laying off a
bit of the drift by getting the wing down as the flare. The first
one has th edownwind wing donw slightly. Remember that this
exercise is intended to demonstrate what the airplane is capable
of and not to develop technique. I have a frined who flies the 777
and he tells me it flies just like an airplane. His first line
flight to LHR had mih landing in a strong crosswind. The trainer
next to him asked if he would prefer that he do th elanding, but
my friend pressed on and found it easy. Note that in each
touchdown, the alignment takes place after touchdown, and that th
etouchdonw is positive. the yaw towards alignment is done smoothly
and though you can't see it, they are almost certainly introducing
full aileron ( smoothly) to keep the wing down and to introduce
some very welcome adverse yaw.We used to have to land the 727 like
this and though it felt absolutley awful, it worked OK.
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I heard the Helio also has crabbing gears. *Ia that right?
Might do. I used to fly a 195 that had them. Awful, really.
The 737 has castering mains. It makes it a bit difficult to taxi,
actually (just go to to th esupermaket if you don't believe me)
Don't they have a locking option?
Nope. We had a 170 with them but we took them off because they were so
awful. THe 195 was a leaseback and the owner liked them.
sniped
setting would be 215, min 170 and so on. That sounds like a lot and
it is when you are used to it, but add to this the fact that the
flaps wear quickly if you put them out near the max speed and you
have an airplane you must keep an eye on, particularly if you're hand
flying.
That does sound like a lot of work.
Like anything, it's second nature when you get used to it, but even so,
it's one of the things we cross check carefully. Newer airplanes have
alarms for the high speed side so we don't bend them. Some have "load
relief" that retracts them automaticaly if you overspeed.
BTW, the DC-3 also has that feature!
thing you'd find a bit demanding. Although, how do you think you'd
cope with a 6,000 fpm plus rate of climb during take off or go
around? 
I think I would cope with that with a big ****e eating grin, what do
you think? :-))))
Depends on your level off altitude! You wou;dn't have time to grin if
you had to level off at 1500 feet, get the power back ( remember that
big trim change with power changes? ) and clean up without exceeding
flap speeds! Go-arounds and takeoffs with a low intercept altitude can
be very messy because of this.
That's what the 757 wil do lightly loaded.
Anyhow, to adress your point, more stable they are not. More
lumbering, maybe, but not more stable. But they need to be flown in a
more stable fashion.
See, that's the term that I have heard from many pro pilots 'more
stable' and that gave me confidence. You tell me that it is 'more
lumbering', that's probably a more accurate description.
Well, they're less flitty, but more stable is't realy what they are. ion
fact, as far as speed control goes they're considerably less stable than
a lightplane.
Of course, not having any experience in them makes make my opinion
just that, only an opinion.
It's do-able, alright. I put a 16 year old from my model flying club
and put him an an old 737-200 sim years ago. I gave him about two
hours of
Where do I get in line? :-)
There are guys who set these things up. A guy that used to work for us
set up these for corporate days out or anyone who wanted to try it. He
even bought an antiquated sim ( I think it was a 707 sim) but mostly he
bought spare time in very modern sims. I used to be able to get a spare
fifteen or thirty minutes in one at the end of a session, but not
anymore. I don't know what the deal is in the post 9-11 era with this
sort of deal, though.
Some of the older sims are still around ( old 737, 727) and some
airplanes use them for generic training and they might be available.
Thanks for a great explanaton Bertie.
Yer welcome!
Bertie