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Old March 8th 08, 10:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt,rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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Default A Call to Arms from Richard VanGrunsven

WJRFlyBoy wrote in
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On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:50:33 GMT, Dale Scroggins wrote:

I realize this is probably an unpopular opinion among the majority
of armature aircraft builders, but emotional jealousy of those
able to afford commissioning the construction of an aircraft, I
fail to find an _objective_ reason for homebuilders' objections.
What am I missing?

Your frontal lobes, from all appearances...

Amusing Rich, sorta, but I find no argument that can untrack
Larry's.

None.
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How about this argument: Until a century or so ago, a landowner held
rights from the center of the earth to the heavens. Nothing could
pass over his land without his permission. Since there were no
aircraft, the issue didn't come up very often. When flight became
possible, this property theory was changed to allow overflight;
however, overflight was not a right given by God, but a negotiated
privilege enforced by governments through legislation and courts.
Because flying over other people's property without permission has
never been a right, and certainly was not even a privilege at the
time the Constitution was written, how do you libertarians come up
with any basis for arguing that the government has limited authority
in regulating aviation? Aviation would not exist in this country
without government action.

In the U.S., with a few exceptions, flying machines need
Airworthiness Certificates to fly. Airworthiness Certificates are
issued by the government. They are not issued or denied arbitrarily.
If you do not wish to meet requirements for issue of an
Airworthiness Certificate, your home-built project could be a nice
static display. That is the ultimate penalty for ignoring or
circumventing requirements.

Dale Scroggins


Thx, I understand the federal and statutory history but, I don't
believe, that is the issue here.

Here is my personal example. I don't have the expertise or time to kit
or plan build. These planes are, at least, the equivalent or superior
to the major manufacturers. If they are not, then I don't understand
why the FAA would allow them.



Which airplane?

Yet I can't buy a completely built kit/plans plane. If this isn't to
control the entry plane market place (or the maj mfgs market), then
why is the restriction imposed. I understand all the philosophical and
why ppl have immense pride in their own-builds but that is not
relevant to the issue at hand.

Cessna goes to China to get the Skyscraper at a reasonable price. Yet
we have USA built planes off better value that are restricted from my
purchase because I can't flip fiberglass?


So, if someone builds a BD% on commision for you you think that's safer
than a 172?

That's what we're talking about.


Bertie