On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:50:24 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
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Roger wrote in
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On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 20:54:58 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
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mariposas rand mair fheal wrote in
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

mariposas rand mair fheal wrote in
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mariposas rand mair fheal wrote in
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Dan wrote:

On Mar 9, 4:17 pm, mariposas rand mair fheal mair_fh...
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Dan wrote in
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However, the Anti-nuke crowd wanted the US to disarm
unilaterally. They also insisted that it was US
technical
advances and weapon fielding that was destabilizing.

so let me get this analogy straight

generation of greenhouse gasses are a weapon against our
enemies
(there always enemies - especially in an election year)
and disarming ourselves of this weapon would lead to our
anihilation

arf meow arf - everything thing i know i learned
from the collective unconscience of odd bodkins
nobody could do that much decoupage
without calling on the powers of darkness

No.

"Everybody must agree that there is only one course to insure
our
survival!" rhetoric is consistently wrong.

everybody agreed that gaseous chlorinated fluorocarbons
were threat to our survival and very quickly (in diplomacy)
there was universal agreement on one course to insure our
survival


Actually, not everybody agreed. The same sort of idiot who
couldnt
see
that seems to have proliferated, though.

It's a mating ritual where like attracts like.
sorta like Democrates make more Democrats and Republicans make more
republicans. I think it's a race to see which one can produce the
most voters the fastest.


everybody who mattered agreed
mr smarty pants

True. Point is the idiots are at the wheel at the moment.

i wonder what would happen this summer if everyone goes to neijing
takes one deep breath
and then immediately turns around and gets back on the plane


Neijing would have considerably less air.

Cleaner too.

Everyone, take some home. It'd probably be the cleanest air they've
seen in decades.


A bit PKB for someone from near enough detroit, eh?

PKB?

I'm a good 120 milesNNW (UPWIND) of Detroit where the summer smog is
created by the corn fields and swamps rather than industry. :-)) Even
the thunderstorms create more Ozone than we let industry put out.

Our streams have been cleaned up to the point where we now have black
flies. Nothing like the number in the Tundra, but the little buggers
still bite. Of course we make up for those lack of numbers by letting
our mosquitoes spread the West Nile Virus and a couple other nasties.

OTOH way back in the early 60's I once followed the smog
(foul...fowl...nasty smelling cloud) from an un-named company for a
100 miles and I could still see it clear to the horizon ahead from
5000 feet. Of course climbing that high and flying that far in a piper
Colt used most of my afternoon and meant I should head for a gas
station soonest so I never did find out how far that cloud went.
However the thing I found remarkable was at 100 miles the thing wasn't
much more than 3 miles wide. That ain't much dispersion.

I haven't seen one of those clouds in years and the smell has improved
remarkably as well. That is with one exception (sdtill many years ago)
when something spilled and killed all the bacteria in some setteling
ponds. GAWD but that was POTENT! And here I'll bet most people didn't
realize **** can spoile:-)) Of course you only need to be down wind
from a setteling pond at turnover time to become a believer.

AND accouding to official "State of Michigan" figures, our winters are
between 5 and 6 weeks shorter than they were 50 years ago.

Bertie
Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com