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Old November 11th 03, 01:23 PM
BUFDRVR
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Isnīt it simple - you join the club, you pay the admission fee?

Then why not move the UN to Berlin and allow the German government to pay all
the "slack". The UN is a financial drain on both the City and State of New
York. This is an unarguable fact.

Iraq was still developing chemical and biological weapons and had known ties

to
international terrorists.


It doesnīt get truer by repetition.. reminds me of the slogan
"Marxismus ist richtig, weil er wahr ist.". :-(


So you're arguing that the US (and the UN) didn't believe Hussain was hiding an
iilegal weapons program? Or are you denying Iraq's ties to international
terrorism?

And if not they should be regarded as POW until proven of different
status..


First of all, the detainees at Gitmo have been treated as POWs from the moment
they were captured. Both the Red Cross and Red Cresent have been allowed to see
them, they have been treated in accordance with the Geneva Convention. The only
differance between these detainees and POWs is that they have not been released
with the defeat of their government....*however*, one could argue that the
conflict is still on going and they have no legal right to be released.

"The US government claims that these men are not subject to the Geneva
conventions, as they are not "prisoners of war", but "unlawful
combatants". The same claim could be made, with rather more justice,
by the Iraqis holding the US soldiers who illegally invaded their
country.


It's good to see that not only US media outlets are completely uninformed. The
above quote is ridiculous and shows no understanding of the Laws of Armed
Conflict or the Geneva Convention Accords.

But this redefinition is itself a breach of article 4 of the
third convention, under which people detained as suspected members of
a militia (the Taliban) or a volunteer corps (al-Qaida) must be
regarded as prisoners of war.


*If they are properly identified by recognized uniform and insignia*! Damn why
do you keep ignoring that part?

Even if there is doubt about how such people should be classified,
article 5 insists that they "shall enjoy the protection of the present
convention until such time as their status has been determined by a
competent tribunal".


For 95% of the detainees, there is no doubt. They were illegal immigrants in
Afghanistan, fighting for a non-governmental organization, wearing no uniform.
In other words an unlawful combatant.

BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"