"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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Thanks for the information.

Have you ever run across this sort of pilot in your years of
experience?


Only one that I can immediately recall. Some twenty years ago I was at
Chicago Center working the OSH sector. I had an arrival to MKE, the route
was GRB direct BJB direct MKE. BJB is the arrival fix for MKE arrivals from
the north, by Letter of Agreement jets are to cross BJB at 10,000 feet. I
issued the descent clearance as he crossed the Center boundary about ten
miles south of GRB, "cross West Bend VOR at and maintain one zero thousand."
The pilot responded, in a rather snotty tone, "I wasn't aware that West Bend
had DME." I confirmed that it did not have DME, to which he asked, "Then
how do you expect us to cross it at ten?" I replied, "I expect you to
practice the fine art of navigation, please advise if that presents a
problem to you." "Outta two four oh for ten" was his reply, in a much less
snotty tone.

Our only other discourse was the communications transfer. Had he something
more to say about the descent clearance I was prepared to point out that if
a simple time-speed-distance problem was too challenging for him, proceeding
to BJB VOR did not preclude use of DME from GRB VORTAC.