Yes, you learn a lot about Dutch rolls real quick. ...and I did experience
a elevator hydraulic cylinder stall once in a 707. That was an experience.

--
BobF.
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Bob F." wrote in
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That's exactly right Bertie. I never ran into anyone who knew that
except for a few engineers at Boeing. I'd love to meet you sometime.
I was fortunate enough to be able to take all the aero engineering
courses they offered. It was great. Most of the instructors were old
707 engineers. I had great respect for them. They had all kinds of
rules of thumb that I never hear about. I have a note book full of
them. I don't even see reference to them in the the my bible, the
NAVWEPS.


I got a mole at Boeing. A rocket scientist, in fact. Meganerd. We grew up
together. This guy built a Piet in his basement starting at the age of
14.
( I helped) The things he found to do with Estes rockets and various
explosives as a teen were numerous and exciting! Especially to the local
cops.
He's just left Boeing to work for some millionaire on a commercial space
flight project. In texas I think.
I can't understand why they don't teach this in a bit more detail, though.
There are very few airline pilots who understand this nowadays. There's an
OK-ish FAA circular on it, but causes and recoveries ae not gone into in
any great detail. They seem to be happy to let the FMC look after it.

BTW, ever get a yaw damper failure in the 707? I've doen them in the sim
in
the 727 and they were pretty exciting.
I've been told the 707 was worse.

Bertie