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Old March 16th 08, 01:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob F.
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Where did you come to the conclusion it was correct in both cases? I just
said I am not surprised the term got "high jacked. and it wouldn't be the
first time" Meaning, incorrectly. I've just never heard it being used
associated with the back of the power curve in 50 years of aviation that's
all. Could have missed it. Love to see some real documentation.

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BobF.
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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Robert Moore wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote
Coffin corner is the area behind the curve where sink rate can't be
stopped with power but requires reduction in angle of attack.
For a perfect example of an aircraft in coffin corner, see the Edwards
AFB accident involving a young AF pilot who got his F100 so deep into
coffin corner behind the curve he couldn't recover the airplane; not
enough air under him to reduce the angle of attack. He applied full
burner but couldn't fly it out on power alone. Reduction of angle of
attack was what he needed and he didn't have the room. THIS is the
definition of coffin corner and it most certainly IS in the area of
reverse command.

You're kidding, right? Better stick to light plane flight instructing
Dudley. I sure don't see the F-100 pilot anywhere near critical mach
speed. THAT was NOT a case of "coffin corner".

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Coffin corner (aviation)
The coffin corner or Q-Corner is the altitude at or near which an
aircraft's stall speed is equal to the critical Mach number, at a given
gross weight and G loading. At this altitude the aircraft becomes nearly
impossible to keep in stable flight. Since the stall speed is the minimum
speed required to maintain level flight, any reduction in speed will
cause the airplane to stall and lose altitude. Since the critical Mach
number is maximum speed at which air can travel over the wings without
losing lift to flow separation and shock waves, any increase in speed
will cause the airplane to lose lift, or to pitch heavily nose-
down, and lose altitude. The "corner" refers to the triangular shape at
the top of a flight envelope chart where the stall speed and critical
Mach number lines come together. Some aircraft, such as the Lockheed U-
2, routinely operate in the "coffin corner", which demands great skill
from their pilots.[1]


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Slow flight
Slow flight is a portion of an airplane's performance envelope above the
speed at which the plane will stall, but below the aircraft's endurance
speed. This part of the performance chart is also known as "the back side
of the power curve" because when flying in this area, more power is
required in order to go slower and still maintain straight and level
flight. A large angle of attack is required in order to maintain the
altitude of the aircraft.

Bob Moore

For God's sake Moore, try actually READING these posts before shooting off
your mouth once in a while. Our mutual dislike for each other is legendary
by now.
As usual, you are beating a dead horse here. Coffin corner is explained in
full in several posts above.
The use of the term is correct in BOTH instances!

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Dudley Henriques