On Mar 16, 7:31 pm, Roger wrote:
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I saw the video and he did one whale of a job balancing on the
thrust/tail until he lost it. He just needed a few thousand pounds
more thrust.

I think some tape of that incident was used in this movie,
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0048364/

enough air under him to reduce the angle of attack. He applied full
burner but couldn't fly it out on power alone. Reduction of angle of
attack was what he needed and he didn't have the room. THIS is the
definition of coffin corner and it most certainly IS in the area of
reverse command.

I saw a clip of a 104 that was skidding sideways and then flipped over
on its top. I believe the engine seized on that one. any thought?

I have a clip from "Planes of Flame", where the 104
is tangled in an arrestor net, yaws left, then rolls over
right that looked messy. Is that the clip you mean?
Ken

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)www.rogerhalstead.com