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In my experience with the Air Force flying 'O's, you guys never set
foot on the hangar deck and have no clue who works on your jets.

Must be pre-1993 experience.

You don't even work in the same place

Then who the hell were all those guys downstairs wearing the BDU's? Some of
them were the same crew chiefs that I "just signed the jet from". They came
to all our squadron meetings and functions too. Who the hell were they?

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The relationship between OPS and maintenance is always changing and may never
actually be ideal. Maintenance keeps changing how they run themselves every few
years. If you want examples of Chinese ceremonial goose stuffings look up POMO,
COMO etc. I was in maintenance as part of OPS units, my last was 9 SOS,
separate maintenace squadrons and CAMS. The average wrenchbender couldn't care
less what you call the unit as long as he gets good leadership, treatment and
support.

In the Navy

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sarcasm onYeah, the Navy has some great officer-NCO or officer-enlisted
relationships sarcasm off

I spent a little over one month on the Theodore Roosevelt and was astonished
at the adversarial relationships between officers and non-officers. You guys
may
work and live togather closer than the Air Force, but you certainly don't
respect and get along better.


I went to sea with the Navy a few times on the little boats like the USS
Okinawa. I didn't see the adversarial relationships you describe, but the rank
differences are much more defined in the Navy than the Air Force. Examples;
"officer country," top 3 going to the head of the chow line etc. Things are
only slightly better than WW2 where boats like destroyers had such a class
difference you'd see officers eating fresh fruit at one end of the chow hall
and enlisted at the other end eating slop. Shipboard life is very much a feudal
system and probably always will be which explaind why the ship's captain has a
Marine guard.


Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired