Jim Logajan wrote:


The poster said these were ATC transmissions, not internal company
communications. Since ATC doesn't concern itself with weight, balance,
or any other flight performance factors, your explanation is almost
certainly wrong.

So if a flight was ready to push back,.. or number 2 or 3 for takeoff,
they wouldnt possibly decline a departure clearance or takeoff clearance
in the manner described?

Because we all know how people stick to exactly what the AIM and the
pilot controller glossary.. right?

The use of "have numbers" is mentioned in AIM section 4-1-13:

Use of this phrase
means that the pilot has received wind, runway, and altimeter
information ONLY and the tower does not have to repeat this information.

If they didn't have the numbers, as referenced in this manner, ATC could
just GIVE em the numbers and clear em anyways.. because we all know that
"have numbers" doesnt subsstitute for "having information alpha" or
bravo or whatever..