On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:18:52 -0400, wrote:

Last Landing? In the Cherokee 180 and my Deb I know if the last
landing was done right as the trim will be at the up limit. Not just
at but right against the stops!

If I were to move the trim significantly aft in the pattern, I'd be
seriously pushing the yoke forward. With the stall horn blaring in
slow flight, I'm nowhere near full aft.

However... My shut down list includes setting trim to neutral. my
preflight is a mechanical "look see" if it is neutral and my run-up is
check to make sure the indicator is neutral. I then set it depending
on load/CG calcs.

Same here at run-up. Neutral trim on my Sundowner will normally put
me within a 1/2 to 3/4 turn down of Vy after rotation. I'll normally
take off with a slightly forward trim setting and need less than 1/4
turn change.

At shutdown after a nice landing, the trim is normally right around
neutral, regardless if I or my partner flew it last.

If I'm trimmed for a 90 knot instrument approach with one notch of
flap or VFR pattern, the additional two notches will require very
minor (1/8 - 1/4 turns) trim changes as I bleed speed to the runway.
I trimmed the PA-28 variants I've flown much more during an approach
than the Sundowner, especially when adding flaps.

I'm going to take some informal polls at my next type club meet and
see where the other guys' trim ends up after landing. My plane flies
well through the entire speed envelope, but I'm starting to wonder if
the rigging might be a tad off.