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Old April 16th 08, 01:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default The ethanol nightmare has arrived!

Peter Dohm wrote:
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What else are you going to run your refrigerator, TV, airconditioning,
lighting, vacuum cleaner, computer, and lights on, natural gas?


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Jim Pennino

No, although some smaller refrigerators can be operated that way. I am
just not sold on making transportation fully dependent on electric power
plants as well.


The energy density of electric storage devices are more than an order
of magnitude inadequate for that to happen and there are no potential
breakthroughs of even an order of magnitude on the horizon.


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Jim Pennino

I believe that we are really in basic agreement. Electric energy storage is
more than an order of magnetude inadiquate to run our transporation system
on batteries, and the rest of the electric infrastructure seems equally
short of being able to work around that problem. Therefore, we will
continue to do as we have done for the foreseeable future.


Well, not quite.

Electric transportation will require a major breakthrough in battery
technology which may or may not ever happen, as well as increased grid
infrastructure.

Production of synthetic petroleum products from raw stock other than
crude oil requires that electricity production costs drop, which could
well happen if you are talking about on the ground facilities, and the
electric production facility need not be tied into the grid or anything
else other than the synthesis facility.


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Jim Pennino

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