In rec.aviation.student Stefan wrote:
Michael Ash schrieb:

Seems to me the worst practice is to fail to communicate clearly when it's
possible to do so.

This can be because you're using nonstandard phrasing (done this) or
because you insist on using standard phrasing when it's not working (never

As a pilot, I would expect the pros at ATC to understand standard
phraseology. And as a non native English speaker, I would expect the
pros at ATC to speak to me in standard phraseology.

Ultimately the goal is to communicate, and the
standards are just a means to that end; if they're giving you trouble, say
whanever you need to say however you need to say it to get the point

Many pilots use this argument as an excuse while they are just too lazy
to learn the proper phraseology. Never forget that those standards have
been set for a reason and many of them have been written with blood.

And likewise the opposite argument is used as an excuse for failing to
adapt when standard phrasing fails. Like the "pan pan" idiot whos antics
started this thread.

Personally I never fly anywhere where radio communication is required in
the first place, and there's a ton of nonstandard phrasing floating around
by the people who are using their radios. The standards are useful but
only as far as they actually work, and when they stop working you ought to
be prepared to do what it takes to get what you need.

--
Michael Ash
Rogue Amoeba Software