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Old May 18th 08, 03:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
Mxsmanic
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Default I give up, after many, many years!

A Lieberman writes:

Read my ILS rational, where you feel the applied power to capture the
glide slope. If you don't feel it in the seat of your pants, you got
a bigger issue. If you are above the glide slope, and you reduce
power, the lack of pressure in your butt should happen, but if the
opposite happens, you have a problem.


To capture the glide slope, you watch the needles on your instruments.

Good example, though not likely, but very possible is having the trim
set in the nose down position rather then nose up. Apply power and
instead of maintaining level altitude, you just accelerated downhill
and you wouldn't get that firm seat of the pants feeling.


Applying power will not accelerate you downhill. Power controls altitude,
pitch controls speed. At constant pitch, increased power produces increased
lift, and thus produces a climb.

The building airspeed and the ABSENCE of an expected seat of the pants
feeling doesn't bode well. This would be an extreme example, but very
pluasible.


Just look at the instruments, and forget the seat of the pants. Your
altimeter will tell you about changes in altitude, and your airspeed indicator
will tell you about changes in speed.

Remember, that the above sensations helps CONFIRM the instruments, NOT
the other way around.


No. The instruments confirm. The instruments are the final authority. If
you are looking at the instruments to begin with (as you will be in IMC), you
don't need anything else, and paying attention to sensations of movement will
only get you into trouble.

You can't.


Yes, you can. You can fly entirely with instruments. You _have to_ fly
entirely with instruments in IMC. Doing anything else is dangerous.

It's a combination that makes it all work.


No combination is necessary.

If you put 100 percent faith in instruments and ignore what I am
describing above, then you are failing to recognize instrumentation
or airplane setting errors, and that will lead to a not so good ending.


Failing instruments in IMC usually lead to a not-so-good ending. The seat of
your pants won't help you.

It's a combination of instruments AND what you feel in the seat of
your pants (NOT your inner ear feelings) that makes a difference
between landing at minimums or butching up an approach.


No, it's instruments.

Again, go up with an IA rated pilot, see what the real deal is all
about. That hood just doesn't do it any justice, nor will any MSFS
desktop simulator do it.


This is unrelated to simulations or hoods. In the real world, in IMC, you fly
by instruments.

Look at the cowling, and it was straight
and level relative to the camera, but in reality, I was in a climbing
right turn.


If the cowling starts to move while you're flying, you have worse problems
than just failing instruments.

In my case, I verified the VSI reading with the feeling in my rear
end.


Your rear end is useless for measuring rate of climb.

Bottom line, in IMC your seat of pants sensation will save your butt,
but you got to use it by listening to what it's telling you, or more
importantly NOT telling you. (seat of the pants sensation)


The seat of the pants sensation can get you killed.