On Fri, 30 May 2008 11:17:12 -0700, "JR Weiss"
wrote:

"Douglas Eagleson" wrote:

A spiral or corkscrew as a maneuver allows an escape. You need elevator
deflection, while entering the simple aileron roll, as a rule to cause the
high angle of attack necessary to slow the aircraft and corkscrew breakoff to
the anywhere direction.

Hmmm... Sounds REMOTELY like a high-G barrel roll that can be used ONLY as a
last-ditch maneuver against a close-in gun attack... OTOH, if the bullets
aren't already flying, you haven't escaped ANYTHING -- you've just ****ed away
your energy and allowed the attacker to shoot you when you stop maneuvering
(which you WILL do, else you'll soon hit the ground out of control).

There is nothing about this maneuver, BTW, that favors a canard airplane...

Been there, done that, in front of a MiG-17 who WAS firing from about
500 feet behind me. In an F-105D, at the western end of Phantom Ridge
where it spills out into the Red River Delta, starting the maneuver at
about 800 feet AGL. Worked as advertized, but wouldn't like to have
been there more than once in a lifetime! Wasted way too many
heartbeats.

All was as you say, Sensei.

Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
"Palace Cobra"
www.thunderchief.org