On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:27:56 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

Stealth Pilot wrote in
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On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 18:48:29 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote:

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in news:874ec04d-d3fb-
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On Jun 29, 6:09 am, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
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the reason I asked the question was to point out that simulators
work
on a simplified model of the reality that real pilots are exposed
to.
people like mxsmanic seem utterly oblivious to the fact that their
exposure to the simulator will never give them competent knowledge
because all they are exposed to is a simplified model of reality.
it
is only exposure to the actual reality that will allow you to
achieve
competent knowledge.

Yesterday, wife and I sim'd the Luna 3 mission
to photograph the far side of the moon that the
Ruskies did in 1959. We used trial and error but
finally got it.
Those poor SOB's used vacuum tubes and slide
rules to "sim" the ballistics.

if simulators dont get something as simple as the aircraft's shadow
right can you trust that anything else they show you is right?

I'd love to put Stealth Pilot on the top of a ballistic
missile with a joy stick, and then have him execute
the simple manuever of a lunar orbital return mission
to earth. I'd be wearing a hard hat :-).




Of course you would k00kie boi.

Bertie

I wasnt aware that alfoil hats were hard. have these buggers been
using kevlar liners in them as well???

sims have a place in the industrial world but to prefer the sim to
reality is just nonsense. barking mad nonsense!

Stealth Pilot


Well, we use 'em of course, but it's mainly because it's impractical to
actually set a 757 on fire.

Bertie

I have a friend who is part owner of a cherokee 140. ...the blandest
aeroplane in history???
he spent hundreds of hours flying microsoft flight sim and a few other
sims.
fair dinks, one day he was out with partner owner in a gusting
crosswind and almost lost the cherokee in a landing.

partner's conclusion was that he landed the simulator because not once
during the near prang did he apply rudder.
scared the partner to his boots.

turns out the sim setup at home doesnt have rudder pedals.

my conviction is that sims used as a substitute for real flying are a
bloody danger to all involved. they gradually replace the real skills
with slow reacting putty.
if you understand the body's processes of neurological tuning you will
have no problem understanding why.

Stealth(20 knot crosswinds from any direction ...not a problem) pilot