On Jul 22, 6:55*am, Mike the Strike wrote:
Those are the only gliders where I think its needed.

Never flown a Jantar-1?

Horribly under-ruddered, as I recall, needing lots of boot to
coordinate a turn and preferring it applied a tad before aileron.

Mike

ASH-25, and I'd assume a Nimbus, etc. (yes not much training done in
those).

Darryl