Jim Logajan wrote:
"Mike" wrote:
Taking off with your wife and daughter would have to be pretty high on
the list:

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20080731X01135

The plane was a '59 145hp 172. DA would have been around 3,500. You
can draw your own conclusions.

The report lists the N-number and states that the non-certificated pilot is
also the owner. The aircraft number can be located in the FAA aircraft
database, which provides the owner name. The FAA license database can be
searched for the owner's name to see what, if any, certificates the owner
holds or held.

Bottom line appears to suggest:
The listed owner bought the aircraft in 2004 about a month prior to getting
a student pilot certificate. Doesn't appear to have gone past that stage. I
don't know if or how the database handles renewals so the owner might still
have a student license, though were that the case I assume the NTSB report
would have stated "student pilot" not "non-certificated" pilot.


http://www.tylerpaper.com/article/20...WS08/808030343

"The investigation into the crash of a Cessna 172 last weekend in the
Athens area raised the questions when the newspaper learned the pilot,
Paul Kaemmerling, of Liberty, does not hold any type of pilot
certification, though he owns an airplane.

“He had a student pilot certificate, but that expired May 31, 2006, so
he did not have any pilot certificate at the time of the crash,”
National Transportation and Safety Board Safety Investigator Jennifer
Kaiser said earlier in the week. "