buttman wrote:

Then you should fly with the current crop of CFI's and ask them hard
questions about what they do and why?

Well, a bunch of CFI candidates and I have been meeting two or three
times a week since about April and because I work ten hours a day, I'm
the last in line, but the others have passed their checkrides in the
last several weeks and already have students.

What exactly would you like me to ask them?

And what of the zero flap forward slip to a landing? What about the
cross control stall discussion? To what meaning? BFD they can discuss
it and can't perform it

Now, how in hell do you say they can't perform it? They DID perform it,
at least to PTS standards. Why are you suggesting to readers that they
can't?

Spins? What a joke. I challenge you to show me 10 out of 100
new CFI's who can do a coherent discussion and demonstration of spins
and recoveries or who have actually done them?

Again, you're showing total ignorance. Of the 10 CFIs I know, ALL OF
THEM HAVE DONE SPINS. Most recently, I demonstrated six of them with a
gold seal CFII-MEI on July 2. What exactly would you like to to discuss?

Discussions are great but its like sex. You can talk until you are blue in the face

Blahblahblah...are you not aware of 14 CFR 61.183 (i) 1 and 2? You have
to have a logbook endorsement from a CFI saying that you've demonstrated

I think you need to not generalize so much. I imagine most "current
crop of CFI's" you are referring to are people with roughly 250 hours
TT. Obviously they are not going to be Chuck Yeagers.

And yet they've all demonstrated spins and spin recovery for a required
logbook endorsement prior to the checkride, and demonstrated
instructional proficiency in spin awareness and recovery during the exam.

And if you're one of those 10,000+ hour pilots who can do it all,

How many of those do you think there are compared to the number of
people in primary, instrument or commercial training, or getting a
flight review?

As long as they can teach someone else how to fly without crashing in
the process or wasting a ton of time/money, then everything will be
OK.

That's more or less obvious, isn't it?

-c