"Gig 601Xl Builder" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:

There was no perjury. Clinton was never convicted or even so much as
indicted for any such crime, or any other crime for that matter. If
you're not familiar with the facts of the situation, you should better
educate yourself before you comment.


To say he wasn't indicted is somewhat misleading. He was never indicted
because you can't indict a sitting President or Vice President.

False.

The vote by the house to impeach was the indictment.

False. Impeachment and subsequent trial in the Senate can never result in
criminal penalties.

To think that Starr couldn't have taken what he had and gotten an
indictment from any grand jury in the land shows a huge level of
misunderstanding how grand juries work.

You think a sitting president can't be indicted and you pretend to be an
expert on grand juries?

As has been said a good prosecutor could indict a ham sandwich.

And you think that's what makes a "good" prosecutor?

They can also get disbarred for prosecutorial misconduct, sued, and in some
cases even held criminally responsible for their actions as I'm sure Ken
Starr well understood. Try looking up the name Michael Nifong sometime.

Getting a conviction is another thing entirely. I remember when either the
Starr Report was published. I read through and there was one place where a
crime had clearly been committed and where there should have been a
conviction. There was testimony from Clinton's secretary that Clinton told
her to lie to the grand jury and it was very specific.

False.

If you really think there was a criminal case against Clinton, consider how
the entire matter was closed on Clinton's last day of office. Independent
Counsel Robert Ray dismissed all charges in exchange for Clinton's admission
that he had made misleading statements during the Paula Jones deposition
(Which Clinton had already done during the GJ proceedings) and a 5 year
suspension of his law license (that he had no intention of using anyway and
still hasn't renewed to this day). So the sum total of the entire
Independent Counsel investigation which lasted the better part of a decade
and cost $100 million amounted to exactly squat, and that doesn't even count
the numerous congressional investigations. No major administration officials
were ever so much as indicted as a result. Think about that for a moment
and consider everything alleged in those investigations. Whitewater,
Travelgate, FBI files, Vince Foster, and destroying evidence. Then ask
yourself if you can honestly and rationally say Clinton wasn't the victim of
a term long witch hunt. Anything Clinton did wrong pales in comparison to
what was done to him by the other side. That was the travesty of the whole
affair and that was the blight on American politics.

There are those who believe the Clintons were guilty of all the allegations
against them. There are other looneys who believe the Clintons murdered
Vince Foster(and at least 33 other people), murdered the children at Waco,
was responsible for the OKC bombing, the TWA 800 bombing, and thousands of
other equally whacky bits of nonsense. Believe what you want to believe,
just don't start thinking you can convince others who are more rational when
the facts tell a different story.