Thread: Ramp Fees
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Old August 29th 08, 01:39 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
Mike[_22_]
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"Dave" wrote in message
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Mike wrote:
"noname" wrote in message
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I landed at Bridgeport airport in Connecticut to pick up a friend and
ended up at Atlantic Aviation Services. I was trying to get on the
other side of the tarmac to where my friends plane was parked but it
was blocked. The FBO guy waved me in to park and with nowhere else to
go I parked. Before I got off the wing of my plane, I was told to pay
ramp fees of $20.
I told him I was going to leave and he insisted that I go inside and
pay or I would get billed via N number. I went in and complained and
they insisted again.

I paid and commented on their policy which left them surprised.

Is this legal to not have the ramp fees posted and demand payment even
though I offered to leave their ramp immediately?


Yes, it is legal. When you land at an airport, you are essentially
patronizing a business and the responsibility is with you to investigate
such things beforehand.

I think that it is entrampment by having the ramp blocked and the ramp
rat guide me to parking.


In this case, their fees were clearly posted in the official publication
and the fee advertized was a landing fee, not a ramp fee. So you
incurred that cost as soon as your wheels hit the runway, not when you
taxied to the ramp. It may also be the airport, and not the FBO who is
charging the fee. The FBO may just be the collection point.


No the landing fees are totally different than the ramp fees. The airport
charges the landing fees and the FBO charges the ramp fees.


The FBO is most likely the collection point for the landing fees.

I was flying with an instructor who works from that airport and was also
totally appalled.
I have yet to see anywhere where it is advertised that there is a $20.00
ramp fee. If anybody can find one, please let me know and I'll accept that
I was taken by my own ignorance.


It's certainly not rare for FBOs to charge a fee for using their ramp,
especially if you are not buying fuel. Typically they are leasing that ramp
space from the owner of the airport, and if that space is limited you can
bet they are going to discourage non-customer aircraft from using it. Your
instructor should have known that, especially if he's based there.

From the airport diagram, there are several parking areas listed other than
the ramp. Why didn't you use one of those? Even with FBOs that don't
charge a ramp fee, it's bad form to use their ramp if you're not a customer
and there's other space available. The reason is because they are going to
send someone out to park you, chalk your aircraft, put down the red carpet,
and/or put cones around your aircraft because they assume you are a
customer.