"Jay Maynard" wrote in message
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On 2008-09-07, Rich Ahrens wrote:
on 9/7/2008 1:04 PM Jay Maynard said the following:
On 2008-09-07, Rich Ahrens wrote:
And Bertie has been posting in aviation groups since 1998, as a simple
Google search will turn up. He even posted in RAP on 9/11:
Has he been a flaming asshole troll for that long, or did he just go
over
the edge recently? (And no, I'm not about to dredge up that sewer on my
own.)
A false dichotomy that I'm not going to bite on. Besides, Maxie would
insist I was defending him either way, but I'm simply presenting facts.

Rich, my dim recollection from my previous time as a member of the
rec.aviation community was that you were, like a lot of other folks, calm,
rational, and knowledgeable. When I got away from flying, I got away from
rec.aviation. When I got back into flying, I got back in here, only to
find
that the group is full of people like Mxsmanic and Bertie, each working to
destroy the sense of community and mutual assistance by being as trollish,
or as much a flaming asshole, as possible, and the few who were still
trying
to be helpful (such as Jay Honeck) being ruthlessly driven away. Imagine
my
surprise to discover you defending Bertie, one of the worst, and
repeatedly
slamming Jay Honeck, one of the better of those remaining.

I still have my "rec.aviation: Global Hangar Flying" patch, somewhere. It
doesn't apply any more. If we had this kind of hangar flying, we could
sell
tickets and market it on pay-per-view to the unlimited fighting fans.

Bertie's one of the primary causes of the hangar getting burned to the
ground. For you to defend him as you do merely sullies your own
reputation.
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC

Jay,

Thanks for having the guts to tell it like it is. Hopefully in time, more
people find the courage to come forward and tell Bertie and his socks where
to go.