On Sep 12, 1:23*pm, Robert Moore wrote:
"Ol Shy & Bashful" *wrote

Right up front I tell students I get pretty intensive in the cockpit
up to and including profanity. Does it work for me? If you check with
all the students I've flown with they will tell you YES. Certainly I
don't go overboard with any profanity (depending on who you talk to)
but the intensity doesn't ease up.

Sorry Rocky.....I don't buy into that method. My training programs are
intensive...not me. *I'm there to help the student beat the program.
Profanity is out of the question. Not one of my Naval Aviator instructors
at Pensacola ever resorted to the use of profanity, the old "Officer and
Gentleman" routine that an ex-Drill Sargent might not understand.

After 9 years as a Naval Aviator with combat time in Vietnam, I then spent
25 year as a B-707/B-727 airline pilot with probably 10 years spent as an
FAA designated Instructor Pilot, Manager of Flightcrew Training, Chief Pilot,
and a stint as Director of Operations.

I have been a civilian flight instructor for 38 years with a 100% pass rate
with not one Private Pilot student requiring more than 50 hours of training
to acquire an airman certificate.

You really don't have to curse and swear, you know, your looks are mean
enough. * * *

Bob Moore
PanAm (retired)

Hey Bob
You know, I have really enjoyed your posts over the years and you are
a delight and a real pro. It all boils down to individual techniques.
I know guys who never raise their voice and are really scary. I know
guys who are really tough and really religious who never use profanity
except on rare occasions. All of them are respected and proficient.
It just works for me and it appears, expected? I'll ammend my
presentation according to the student and it seems to work fine. Isn't
that what being a teacher is all about? Teaching effectively?
I don't want to teach a student to beat the program. I want my
students to understand what they are trying to do within the program
and become proficient aviators. Thinking pilots rather than, robots.
My rationalization being, many years back (late 60's), I was focused
on autorotations and didn't hear anything my instructor said. After
that and a discussion, my personal technique became one of not letting
the student not hear me! Of course I like to think it is more refined
than that now Still, my students frequently tell me thay can still
hear me "chirping" in their ears while they are flying and staying
ahead of the events.
My son is just over 2 yrs old and flexing his new muscles and finding
his place in the world. I have to smack his little butt to let him
know when he reached the particular limit. Then he crawls into my lap,
wipes away his tears, grins at me and says "My Dadda"
Thats when it takes discipline to maintain ......... ggg
Best Professional and Personal Regards
Rocky Kemp