Was this a close shave?
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
		
My guess, 
The glider battery was almost flat, hence the "hisses." 
He followed the motorglider closely because he needed to! 
He had no engine to extend his flight. 
Motorglider probably didn't know glider was there. 
So in a way : "ops normal!" 
Caboolture is a busy gliding/ultralight/homebuilt/general aviation 
field 
in southern Queensland, Australia 
Tom 
 
 
 
 
On Oct 21, 3:14*pm, "  wrote: 
 From: recreationalflying.com.au/ today 
 
 Anyone recognize the field at Caboolture or witness what Craig 
 describes? 
 .............................................. 
 
 Was this a close shave? 
 Hi guys, 
 
 *I took my frequency scanner to Caboolture on Sunday to listen to what 
 was happening and see what is meant by building a mental picture of 
 where aircraft are based on their calls. Quite interesting... I'm 
 battling with '5 miles North West of the field'. I'm thinking in my 
 head - how did he know that!? Look at the compass, and work out the 
 reciprical value, or something? Need to brush up on my quick maths! 
 
 *Anyways, I saw a powered glider doing his downwind pass. Behind him, 
 not very far back was a normal glider. I heard the powered guy 
 reporting that he was on downwind. Thene there was a 'hiss' on the 
 radio as if someone was about to speak - lasting maybe 4 seconds, then 
 nothing... 
 
 *The powered guy entered left base, and reported. Glider had closed on 
 him a bit. Then the glider entered his base turn, and again.. a 
 hissss.... and nothing. 
 
 *By now, I was watching intensly, as it seemed the glider was catching 
 the motorised glider. 
 
 *Motorised guy turned and reported for finals. Then, about 5 seconds 
 later, this hissss... as the glider followed him... They were now at a 
 distance that I thought the powered guy may have been towing... but 
 surely not! 
 
 *I watched as the powered guy landed... and timed it.. and measured 
 that 3 seconds later, the glider landed behind him - same runway. 
 There was no tether! 
 
 *Firstly, if this is normal - disregard. But I just thought that it 
 looked like an accident in the making. The glider seemed WAY too 
 close. 3 seconds.. count it ... is pretty close, no? And he was 
 cathing all the time... OK, maybe the slowing speed makes the time gap 
 remain the same, but the distance reduce... but... it seemed fishy. 
 Also, the fact that I never once heard the glider report his 
 position... strange. 
 
 *So, as a novice, I can guess at the fault: The gliders mic wasn't 
 working. Was he perhaps broadcasting, but as there was an issue with 
 his radio, no-one heard him. Especially the powered glider ahead of 
 him. He may have had no idea he had a glider behind him, and I guess a 
 glider can't do a go-around - but without the powered glider knowing 
 there was someone so close behinf him - he was just cruising in as 
 normal. 
 
 *Or, perhaps the powered guy knew about it, and maybe this is what you 
 do when you know another aircraft has a comms problem? Fly close? 
 
 *I saw the glider had his spoilers up from quite far out... so he was 
 trying to go slow... but as I say, it seemed to get closer and 
 closer... dangerously so. 
 
 *Any ideas? Seems strange eh? 
 
 *My second question would be what IF the radios were working. As the 
 powered guy seemed to be going slower (somehow), could the glider warn 
 him that he is a glider, and to hurry up - which would then maybe get 
 the powered guy to abort, climb out and go around for another landing? 
 The glider really has no option except to slow down. But he can't go- 
 around... he's basically commited to the landing. What happens in this 
 case? 
 __________________ 
 *Craig 
 
 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
			
 
			
			
			
				 
            
			
			
            
            
                
			
			
		 
		
	
	
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