On Oct 29, 11:46*am, Alan Baker wrote:
In article ,
*"Gregory Hall" wrote:



"Bryan Martin" wrote in message
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That could only happen if the plane was loaded with the CG way aft of
the limit. Otherwise, the plane would pitch DOWN if the stabilizer
stalled because the stabilizer normally produces a down force to keep
the nose up.

If it worked that way it would be a built-in safety factor helping to
forestall a stall of the main wing. But suppose the motor died and the
aircraft was then a glider. One must glide nose down. The horizontal
stabilizer forcing the nose down would then cause the pilot to pull back on
the stick to counteract the forces for aft. If the stabilizer stalled in
this attitude the nose is supposed to pitch down but would it? The tail
might just continue to drop provided the main wing still gets traction??? CG
is dependent upon both lifting both control surfaces as well as weight
distribution.

Sorry. But centre of *mass* (to use the correct term) is not in any way
dependent on the lift from anything.

The centre of mass is a parameter than is completely fixed by the
distribution of the mass of the aircraft's components. Whether any
surface is providing lift will not change it.

So as long as the main wing is located aft of the centre of mass, the
aircraft will pitch *down* when lift from the tail plane is lost.

Period.



--
Gregory Hall

In article ,
"Gregory Hall" wrote:

http://www.youngeagles.org/photos/ga...ncairLegacy200...

Look at the picture. It's easy to see why the Lancair is dangerous. The
horizontal stabilizers appear to be on the too small side. This would
result
in their stalling before the wing. Then the aircraft would pitch up
making
the main wing stall. Ill-conceived, IMO.

A good lawyer needs to get on this with respect to BadWaterBill's
untimely
demise.

--
Gregory Hall

--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Ram Subaru, Stratus redrive.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg

It's kinda simple. Assuming the main wheels are under the wing and the
a/c still rests on those and the nose wheel then wings are aft of the
cg and the horizontal stabilisers are there for down force to keep the
nose up. Not sure what Gregory is banging on about here.