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Old December 25th 03, 09:22 PM
Chad Irby
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"Carl Alex Friis Nielsen" wrote:

Ok, but remember while the Israelis have occupied land outside their
recognized borders for decades without the locals ever being able
to throw them out the price hasnīt really been low - or do you really
view Israel as a nice place to live. Is their military might really
effective at protecting them ?


Extremely so, when you consider the huge amount of money and time
invested in their destruction by pretty much every country that borders
them. They've got a higher standard of living than all of their
neighbors, they live longer, and have a moderate guarantee that they're
going to be in the same place for a while.

Overall, the Israeli military solution seems to be good enough so far.

ROTFLMAO. That's suicide. Or did you notice the attack didn't touch
the heart of the CVBG?


Almost eliminating a billion dollar warship and taking it out of action for
over a year plus killing 17 US sailors in the process is a laughing
matter to you ?


I can certainly see why someone might be upset that a one-shot,
not-to-be-repeated attack isn't as effective in the long run, and I can
certainly see why someone might think it's funny that other prople can
rely on it for their future military actions.

That sort of arrogance is probably the largest vulnerability of the
US - don't expect the rest of the world to be as defeatist as you
wish them to be.


Why not? It's worked pretty well so far.

"The US will get slaughtered in Afghanistan, like everyone else."
"The US will be in another Ivetnam when they invade Iraq."
"The Libyans caved in due to worldie pressure."

People refusing to give in even in the face of impossible odds have been
known to end up winning in the end on several ocasions.


....and have gotten beat into a pulp on many more. Not to mention that
most places don't have the "victory or death" mindset that the popular
literature hopes for. Especially when fighting against someone who's
really not that interested in invading those countries for direct
profit, like everyone else seems to do.

It worked in Somalia, it worked in Vietnam, it worked in Iran, it worked in
Lebanon - why not toss the dice again ?


Because it didn't work in Afghanistan and Iraq, in a very blatant and
obvious fashion. And without another opposing superpower to pay for it,
you won't get another Vietnam.

Many folks can't learn, but a lot of countries have gotten the message
that the US has figured out how to beat them at their own game.

The photos of Saddam put the final nail in that coffin.

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