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Old May 10th 09, 06:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
Ken S. Tucker
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Default "PENTAGON WORKING TO GIVE F-35 JSF NUCLEAR-STRIKE CAPABILITY"

On May 10, 4:13 am, "Keith Willshaw"
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On May 8, 1:30 am, "Keith Willshaw"
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On May 7, 1:09 pm, "Keith Willshaw"
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As a back-drop, 27 years ago,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exocet#Falklands_Conflict
(Seems like yesterday).


Delivered by aircraft as a standoff weapon, the target identification
was down on board the aircraft.


Keith, I was rather hoping the "27 years ago" might
be a hint.
...
It's a bit difficult to hide a CVN from a satellite.


Sure but getting real time location from a satellite is difficult and
VERY expensive


This works, it's civilian,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RADARSAT-1


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the satellite is in exactly the same location and can take the same image
(same beam mode and beam position) every 24 days.
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Not much good for real time target tracking


We'd sit out after sunset in the dark, having a few brew
around a fire, with the stars above. Every 5 minutes or
so a North - South sat would fly over, visible because
they're still in the sunlight, practically a traffic jam up
there.


The number of Soviet Optical satellites in orbit at any one time
was rarely more than one. The active life of a satellite was 30 days


Yes, we are sure the Kremlin keeps Keith up to date :-),
what is your ref?

Today, using conventional ordinance, an MRBM
put in the ballpark of a CVN will terminal guide to a
probable direct hit, even choosing where to hit.


And just what combination of sensors and steering do you think
can do that ?


Just simple stuff. What would you use?


Its not simple stuff, a MRBM is doing anything up to 4,000 m/sec
on rentry. The plasma around the reentry vehicle is going to make
most sensors useless while also making radical manoeveurs next
to impossible.


It's a sub-orbital ballistic missile that breaks to subsonic
at high altitude, then it has a lot of time (by electronic
standards) to search, select, aim and fire.

Note that while Pershing II used a synthetic aperture radar system
for terminal guidance this was an ancillary to the INS and compared
radar maps of the terrain with the on board maps. Its inclusion
was simply to reduce the CEP from the 400m of the Pershing I to
30m. This system did not have the capability to search for, locate and
guide the warhead to a moving target that may be 30 miles from the aim
point.
Keith


Things haved changed. A missile can shoot down a satellite
going 15,000 mph, yet you Keith steadfastly hold to the idea
that hitting a huge CVN doing 30 mph is very difficult.

Electronics has revolutized warfare as much as atomic
energy has. I've been in and out the business since 68,
and the pace is astounding, Star Trek type communicators
are now used by 12 yo girls for "sexting".
Keith, a young fella like yourself has probably never seen a
Telex machine.
Classified military electronics is likely 10-15 years ahead of
what is publically known.
Ken