On Mon, 11 May 2009 15:28:18 -0700 (PDT), Darryl Ramm
wrote:

Not surprising at all - it would surprise me if anybody really wants
to teach this. Lets see -

- A desire to teach a standardized recovery
- Don't distract people with grabbing for a handle while under stress
(or if not stress just physically being thrown around a little)
- Likelyhood of grabbing the wrong handle (esp. if transitioning from
another ship) and just moving it (i.e. opening full spoilers)
- With full negative flap what happens to increased likelihood of
entering another/reverse spin if the pilot recovers too "hard"?

All of your points are right on the spot.
However, I really teach this.

The command is simple: "Push the flap lever forward".
The other levers on the left side of the cockpit (gear and airbrakes)
cannot be pushed forward, so no harm can be done by grabbing the wrong
lever.

Apart from the quicker recovery in negative flaps, there's one much
more important point why it's absolutely necessary (in my opinion!) to
move the flap lever forward as standard part of the spin recovery
procedu

In nost gliders (certainly all Schleicher ones), it is nearly
impossible with positive flaps NOT to exceed the Vne for this flap
setting during the recovery.

And pulling significant G with too-positive flap setting is the best
way to induce extremely high torsional load on the wing... with all
its consequences.

At the speeds during the recovery even the most negative flap setting
won't lead to a secondary stall.




Bye
Andreas